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Post by clownbaby on Apr 6, 2015 17:18:15 GMT
I think this all comes down to a lack of confidence from Auburn fans (and a lack of ability to logically argue). You've got a really good coach and you should be confident in that, not reaching on points or overreacting to Alabama also hiring a good coach (albeit one with a lack of college experience). I'm not sure what points we're reaching on(lank logic doesn't count). Personally I think he'll do well and it looks great on the surface, but it's so random and no one knows if he can recruit or coach college basketball so I won't be surprised by any outcome. It's stupid to call it a great hire or a terrible hire. I think the great hire talk comes solely from the aspect of not necessarily settling on some mid-major scrub after being turned down by Marshall because we still got a big name. Now, of course, that big name is an NBA name and comes with a lot of questions about what it can do at the college level. |
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Post by tlau on Apr 6, 2015 17:18:32 GMT
So Barves thinks that "the media" is a good UNBIASED opinion, when reporting on Alabama athletics
Jax Teller took a post that called Pearl and Calipari recruiting giants and decided that was ridiculous because of Pearl's Conference and SEC Tournament record... not his recruiting classes.
but Auburn fans are the ones being ridiculous and reaching.
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Post by ma on Apr 6, 2015 17:19:50 GMT
I think this all comes down to a lack of confidence from Auburn fans (and a lack of ability to logically argue). You've got a really good coach and you should be confident in that, not reaching on points or overreacting to Alabama also hiring a good coach (albeit one with a lack of college experience). (lank logic doesn't count). Personally I think he'll do well and it looks great on the surface, but it's so random and no one knows if he can recruit or coach college basketball so I won't be surprised by any outcome. It's stupid to call it a great hire or a terrible hire. Here: Its not that i didnt expect bama fans to try to spin this into a good hire...i would expect it from any fanbase who just hired a new coach. Truth is, the guy has never coached college ball and has never recruited before. Sure, he once coached in the NBA...not really going to mean shit on the recruiting trail at a program like alabama. Really dont even see this as an upgrade from anthony grant other than just being new blood |
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Post by mcguirk on Apr 6, 2015 17:23:06 GMT
He's a bigger name than grant, I'll give you that. It may turn into better recruiting hauls, it may not. Just too many unknowns for me to like this hire, but again just expressing opinions over here
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Post by duke on Apr 6, 2015 17:24:23 GMT
I'm not sure what points we're reaching on(lank logic doesn't count). Personally I think he'll do well and it looks great on the surface, but it's so random and no one knows if he can recruit or coach college basketball so I won't be surprised by any outcome. It's stupid to call it a great hire or a terrible hire. Here: Its not that i didnt expect bama fans to try to spin this into a good hire...i would expect it from any fanbase who just hired a new coach. Truth is, the guy has never coached college ball and has never recruited before. Sure, he once coached in the NBA...not really going to mean shit on the recruiting trail at a program like alabama. Really dont even see this as an upgrade from anthony grant other than just being new blood He could be right? |
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Post by izwt on Apr 6, 2015 17:25:18 GMT
LOL at people acting like high school kids won't know Avery Johnson, but using Chuck Person as a support. It's very apparent who went to the ag school. How many miles from Tuscaloosa is the rafter that his jersey hangs from? That's really the main issue with this hire |
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Post by ma on Apr 6, 2015 17:27:09 GMT
I think even you should at least be able to agree that saying his NBA experience is irrelevant for recruiting is absurd. |
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Post by ma on Apr 6, 2015 17:29:08 GMT
So Barves thinks that "the media" is a good UNBIASED opinion, when reporting on Alabama athletics I need you to elaborate on this. |
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Post by duke on Apr 6, 2015 17:30:04 GMT
I think even you should at least be able to agree that saying his NBA experience is irrelevant for recruiting is absurd. It may or may not be irrelevant...there's simply no way of knowing whether or not he can recruit since he's never done it. |
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Post by barves2125 on Apr 6, 2015 17:30:38 GMT
Welp, you managed to have an adult conversation for a while so I guess you should be proud of how long you held it together. And, for the sake of amusement and not giving up on getting it into your dense heads, I will once again point out that it's mostly just Auburn fans that think there's even anything for Alabama fans to be defensive about while most of the nation (and members of various news outlets) think it will prove to be a good hire. Yeah, it's all auburn fans faults that you all flock to angrily defend this hire every time someone gives an honest opinion that you don't agree with. It makes your insecurities about having Bruce Pearl across the state painfully obvious. "Faults?" What are you talking about? Haven't mentioned that word this whole time and not sure why anyone would. As for the allegation of "angrily defend[ing]" the hire, just because you attach an adjective like "angry" doesn't mean it's true. I don't think any of my posts in this thread have had any anger attached to them. I think the only way to interpret any of them that way is if you really want them to seem angry, which we both know seems convenient in a message board conversation. Seems like a pretty reasonable discussion on my behalf and on some of yours', too. Pearl has a good record in the past but he hasn't done anything impressive on the court yet so I'm about as afraid of him as y'all are of Avery Johnson at this point. |
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Post by barves2125 on Apr 6, 2015 17:34:38 GMT
So Barves thinks that "the media" is a good UNBIASED opinion, when reporting on Alabama athletics Jax Teller took a post that called Pearl and Calipari recruiting giants and decided that was ridiculous because of Pearl's Conference and SEC Tournament record... not his recruiting classes. but Auburn fans are the ones being ridiculous and reaching. good times on tmb jr I'm gonna speak on behalf of everyone in this thread and say we'd all prefer it if you didn't get involved. Your brother has already reminded us what sort of genetics the Lank family has to offer and I think we've all seen enough. Regardless, what I said was "It's the closest thing we have to an objective gauge of the quality of the hire at this point." Would you disagree? Do you know another that I'm not considering? Or are you so stuck in your "OMG BAMMERS RUN THE MEDIA NO WAY WE GET FAIR OPINIONS OUT OF THEM" Lee County mentality? Seems that way, doesn't it? |
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Post by borkycucek on Apr 6, 2015 17:40:31 GMT
Pros: Has coached in the NBA for 6.5 seasons and had success with the Mavs making it to the NBA Finals, no other college coach has this experience, can sell this experience and the "I know how to get you to the NBA" to recruits, has been on ESPN
Unknowns: Has never coached in college, has never recruited so who knows how kids will react, hasn't coached in the NBA since he was fired in December 2012 which brings up the question on why he hasn't he been in the mix for jobs since, what kind of staff will he hire, will his coaching style and personality fit in the college game?
He's a big name that's for sure and an interesting hire after missing out on Marshall. He's got a lot of questions at this point and rightfully so since it is so early on and it will take a few years to know. This hire could work out for Alabama and get them back to the tourney and compete at a high level. Or it could be a huge bust for a lot of the unknowns listed above. Tons of questions to be answered.
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Post by bigr on Apr 6, 2015 17:43:20 GMT
Plus if he does good how long will he stick around in a program that plays second fiddle to the football team regardless of its success
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Post by izwt on Apr 6, 2015 17:55:02 GMT
So Barves thinks that "the media" is a good UNBIASED opinion, when reporting on Alabama athletics Jax Teller took a post that called Pearl and Calipari recruiting giants and decided that was ridiculous because of Pearl's Conference and SEC Tournament record... not his recruiting classes. but Auburn fans are the ones being ridiculous and reaching. good times on tmb jr I'm gonna speak on behalf of everyone in this thread and say we'd all prefer it if you didn't get involved. Your brother has already reminded us what sort of genetics the Lank family has to offer and I think we've all seen enough. Regardless, what I said was "It's the closest thing we have to an objective gauge of the quality of the hire at this point." Would you disagree? Do you know another that I'm not considering? Or are you so stuck in your "OMG BAMMERS RUN THE MEDIA NO WAY WE GET FAIR OPINIONS OUT OF THEM" Lee County mentality? Seems that way, doesn't it? This is sad. Your sense of humor is sad. Your life is sad. This makes me sad. |
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Post by ma on Apr 6, 2015 17:58:42 GMT
I think even you should at least be able to agree that saying his NBA experience is irrelevant for recruiting is absurd. It may or may not be irrelevant...there's simply no way of knowing whether or not he can recruit since he's never done it. You're arguing a different point than I am. I'm not saying he can recruit or that his NBA experience is evidence for his recruiting ability. What I am saying is that whether he sucks at recruiting or not, his experience and success in the NBA is relevant and will mean something when he's out recruiting. Frankly it shouldn't even be a point of contention. |
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Post by chipper on Apr 6, 2015 17:59:05 GMT
Just mentioned Pearl because of the instate aspect. Not saying he's even close to Calipari. We have some big time players coming out of alabama in the next few years You think Pearl at Auburn changes the fact that a lot of those guys probably leave the state? I don't think guys like Cousins and Bledsoe went to Kentucky because they weren't in love with the instate schools; they went because a real basketball school gives them a better opportunity to get to the NBA. Austin Wiley isn't leaving the state and he will be a top 10 prospect in the 2017 class. I think Avery will do fine if he puts a good staff together that can recruit. Bama being good at basketball helps us in my opinion. The average fan doesn't care until Bama starts beating us in something. |
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Post by highcotton on Apr 6, 2015 17:59:57 GMT
So Barves thinks that "the media" is a good UNBIASED opinion, when reporting on Alabama athletics Jax Teller took a post that called Pearl and Calipari recruiting giants and decided that was ridiculous because of Pearl's Conference and SEC Tournament record... not his recruiting classes. but Auburn fans are the ones being ridiculous and reaching. good times on tmb jr My personal favorite is dabutracing007 hating on Auburn fans for claiming lil lank when no bama fans like his redneck ass to begin with. |
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Post by mcguirk on Apr 6, 2015 18:15:25 GMT
Yeah, it's all auburn fans faults that you all flock to angrily defend this hire every time someone gives an honest opinion that you don't agree with. It makes your insecurities about having Bruce Pearl across the state painfully obvious. "Faults?" What are you talking about? Haven't mentioned that word this whole time and not sure why anyone would. As for the allegation of "angrily defend[ing]" the hire, just because you attach an adjective like "angry" doesn't mean it's true. I don't think any of my posts in this thread have had any anger attached to them. I think the only way to interpret any of them that way is if you really want them to seem angry, which we both know seems convenient in a message board conversation. Seems like a pretty reasonable discussion on my behalf and on some of yours', too. Pearl has a good record in the past but he hasn't done anything impressive on the court yet so I'm about as afraid of him as y'all are of Avery Johnson at this point. Lol |
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Post by jgator1 on Apr 6, 2015 18:16:59 GMT
It's nice to see SEC schools going away from the "hire a guy from a smaller program whose made the tourney one time" mindset. Howland, Pearl, and Johnson are definitely upgrades on what was there before. Barnes could end up being a nice pickup by UT, Anderson not so much for Mizzou.
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Post by mcguirk on Apr 6, 2015 18:17:40 GMT
So Barves thinks that "the media" is a good UNBIASED opinion, when reporting on Alabama athletics Jax Teller took a post that called Pearl and Calipari recruiting giants and decided that was ridiculous because of Pearl's Conference and SEC Tournament record... not his recruiting classes. but Auburn fans are the ones being ridiculous and reaching. good times on tmb jr I'm gonna speak on behalf of everyone in this thread and say we'd all prefer it if you didn't get involved. Your brother has already reminded us what sort of genetics the Lank family has to offer and I think we've all seen enough. Regardless, what I said was "It's the closest thing we have to an objective gauge of the quality of the hire at this point." Would you disagree? Do you know another that I'm not considering? Or are you so stuck in your "OMG BAMMERS RUN THE MEDIA NO WAY WE GET FAIR OPINIONS OUT OF THEM" Lee County mentality? Seems that way, doesn't it? Proving my point |
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Post by tc on Apr 6, 2015 18:25:07 GMT
Bams and Barns going on for page after page in circular arguments; good to know some things will never go away no matter what forum we're posting on
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Post by jaxteller007 on Apr 6, 2015 18:55:53 GMT
So Barves thinks that "the media" is a good UNBIASED opinion, when reporting on Alabama athletics Jax Teller took a post that called Pearl and Calipari recruiting giants and decided that was ridiculous because of Pearl's Conference and SEC Tournament record... not his recruiting classes. but Auburn fans are the ones being ridiculous and reaching. good times on tmb jr My personal favorite is dabutracing007 hating on Auburn fans for claiming lil lank when no bama fans like his redneck ass to begin with. Redneck? Holy shit man, come out with something better than that. I'm pretty far from redneck. |
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Post by tc on Apr 6, 2015 18:59:18 GMT
You ever seen a redneck fly Emirates?
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Post by highcotton on Apr 6, 2015 19:00:15 GMT
My personal favorite is dabutracing007 hating on Auburn fans for claiming lil lank when no bama fans like his redneck ass to begin with. Redneck? Holy shit man, come out with something better than that. I'm pretty far from redneck. My sincerest apologies, I should have used the term white trash. |
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Post by PatDyesWholeBody on Apr 6, 2015 19:16:53 GMT
Let it out, guys.
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Post by tlau on Apr 7, 2015 0:53:43 GMT
barves really making a fool of himself in this one. reminds me of when we hired chizik
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Post by PatDyesWholeBody on Apr 7, 2015 1:38:06 GMT
barves really making a fool of himself in this one. reminds me of when we hired chizik  |
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Post by borkycucek on Apr 7, 2015 2:04:52 GMT
You ever seen a redneck fly Emirates? This got me pretty good. I think it was Farva who posted a search on TMB that he had 3 pages from the search with "emirates" in it. |
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Post by barves2125 on Apr 7, 2015 4:54:24 GMT
barves really making a fool of himself in this one. reminds me of when we hired chizik Please feel free to point out how or why I made a fool of myself. This should be interesting from the guy that constantly acts like a creep/tool on TMB and still doesn't understand that people are laughing at and not with him. Thanks in advance. |
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Post by borkycucek on Apr 7, 2015 5:03:16 GMT
Who is patdyeswholebody? Most all of the decent to good Alabama posters have been accounted for outside of Owsley. I know he wouldn't all of a sudden become a shitty poster.
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