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Post by PatDyesWholeBody on Apr 6, 2015 0:12:49 GMT
Here are just a few of Pearl's question marks. Some are interchangeable with any coach who comes to Alabama. 1) Can he replicate the success he's had in the past at Auburn, a place with virtually no basketball history outside of Charles Barkley? 2) If he is able to achieve success at Auburn, will he be lured away by a blueblood? 3) Will Pearl be able to maintain recruiting success as one of just two active coaches who were previously show-caused? The NCAA will almost certainly be watching him a little more closely than others. 4) Can Pearl and his family be happy living in like Auburn, Alabama? That said, Pearl is a good coach. There's really no debating that, but how much he can accomplish at a place like Auburn has yet to be seen. 1) it doesn't matter if he can't replicate his success...he just needs to have some success...which he's well on his way to doing 2) will a blue blood want to touch him? I highly doubt it...would never blame him for leaving, but I believe he is completely focused on winning here and truly loves this challenge 3) lol ncaa 4) by all accounts they are happy and we'd likely happily let his son take over if that's what Bruce wants Since Avery Johnson's hiring, Auburn fans have gone from guaranteed top 25 every year to just any success will do. He is already in their heads. :roll: |
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Post by duke on Apr 6, 2015 0:21:04 GMT
1) it doesn't matter if he can't replicate his success...he just needs to have some success...which he's well on his way to doing 2) will a blue blood want to touch him? I highly doubt it...would never blame him for leaving, but I believe he is completely focused on winning here and truly loves this challenge 3) lol ncaa 4) by all accounts they are happy and we'd likely happily let his son take over if that's what Bruce wants Since Avery Johnson's hiring, Auburn fans have gone from guaranteed top 25 every year to just any success will do. He is already in their heads. :roll: I'm much happier with a complete unknown than a Marshall, Smart or Miller...and my point is that we don't have to go to 7 straight tourneys to be successful although I'm sure we'll be a fixture in the tourney before too long. |
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Post by PatDyesWholeBody on Apr 6, 2015 0:44:29 GMT
Since Avery Johnson's hiring, Auburn fans have gone from guaranteed top 25 every year to just any success will do. He is already in their heads. :roll: I'm much happier with a complete unknown than a Marshall, Smart or Miller...and my point is that we don't have to go to 7 straight tourneys to be successful although I'm sure we'll be a fixture in the tourney before too long. Avery Johnson is exactly what our basketball program needs right now imo. Marshall was definitely our first choice, but I'm glad we don't appear to have pursued Shaka Smart or Archie Miller. Steve Prohm would have been Anthony Grant all over again. |
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Post by duke on Apr 6, 2015 1:00:14 GMT
I'm much happier with a complete unknown than a Marshall, Smart or Miller...and my point is that we don't have to go to 7 straight tourneys to be successful although I'm sure we'll be a fixture in the tourney before too long. Avery Johnson is exactly what our basketball program needs right now imo. Marshall was definitely our first choice, but I'm glad we don't appear to have pursued Shaka Smart or Archie Miller. Steve Prohm would have been Anthony Grant all over again. Yall certainly could've done much worse and I'd be very excited if I was a Bama fan, but I also think it's impossible to say that he's exactly what your program needs right now considering you have no idea what he brings to the table. |
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Post by audrew on Apr 6, 2015 1:19:02 GMT
"There's a lot of questions about how Pearl will do at Auburn."
"Avery Johnson is just what we need right now. He'll be a hell of a recruiter."
Two sides...one mouth.
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Post by chipper on Apr 6, 2015 1:19:24 GMT
Of course we aren't a juggernaut, but I don't see how you could say he has plenty of question marks...we're still a couple of years away, but it's inevitable that we'll be a top 25 program as long as he's our coach. Here are just a few of Pearl's question marks. Some are interchangeable with any coach who comes to Alabama. 1) Can he replicate the success he's had in the past at Auburn, a place with virtually no basketball history outside of Charles Barkley? 2) If he is able to achieve success at Auburn, will he be lured away by a blueblood? 3) Will Pearl be able to maintain recruiting success as one of just two active coaches who were previously show-caused? The NCAA will almost certainly be watching him a little more closely than others. 4) Can Pearl and his family be happy living in a place like Auburn, Alabama? That said, Pearl is a good coach. There's really no debating that, but how much he can accomplish at a place like Auburn has yet to be seen. 1) Cliff Ellis was able to win here and may have had a longer career had his assistants not got us in trouble with the NCAA. 2) Know some people close to the Pearl's that say they really like it here. Bruce seems genuinely grateful that we gave him a second chance. If a top program came calling though its hard to say. The big money people told our AD to pay Barbee his money and go get Bruce though so I think we will keep him well paid to stay. 3) Our recruiting so far has been good and we have some good ties to some instate stud players in the next few classes. Shit he recruited pretty good last year considering he wasn't able to go see any prospects. 4) Answered this in #2 but yes they like it here. His son who is an assistant just built a house here and said they plan to stay. Bruce's wife apparently doesn't like the spotlight and likes that she can be left alone in a small town like AU. If Bruce can't win here we need to shut down the basketball program. We have great facilities and the fan support has been overwhelming this year. I have attended damn near every home game since Charles was here and cannot remember the fan base being this supportive. One disclaimer though our AD is a massive fucking retard that is capable of fucking up anything he touches. |
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Post by PatDyesWholeBody on Apr 6, 2015 1:46:07 GMT
"There's a lot of questions about how Pearl will do at Auburn." "Avery Johnson is just what we need right now. He'll be a hell of a recruiter." Two sides...one mouth. I'm not sure who you're quoting, but I said any coach at Alabama has a lot of the same questions as I have about Pearl. Avery Johnson is what Alabama basketball needs, because after Anthony Grant, we need a solid coach with a lot of energy, a good reputation, and someone who will get us some positive attention from the media. Avery is all of those things. How much will he accomplish at Alabama? We don't know, but there is a lot of optimism, and it seems like a really good hire to me. |
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Post by shivious on Apr 6, 2015 2:53:38 GMT
We'll obviously have to wait and see if Johnson is successful or not but it seems to me that TMB Auburn fans are the only ones calling it a bad hire. Imagine that. For the sake of comparison, Johnson's name was briefly mentioned as a possibility at Texas before Smart was hired. I would have gone on a shooting spree. Then you're an idiot |
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Post by duke on Apr 6, 2015 3:30:48 GMT
"There's a lot of questions about how Pearl will do at Auburn." "Avery Johnson is just what we need right now. He'll be a hell of a recruiter." Two sides...one mouth. I'm not sure who you're quoting, but I said any coach at Alabama has a lot of the same questions as I have about Pearl. Avery Johnson is what Alabama basketball needs, because after Anthony Grant, we need a solid coach with a lot of energy, a good reputation, and someone who will get us some positive attention from the media. Avery is all of those things. How much will he accomplish at Alabama? We don't know, but there is a lot of optimism, and it seems like a really good hire to me. Seems like a good hire to me and I'd be optimistic too, but I think you're reaching on it being what Alabama 'needs'. I don't know what positive attention from the media means(besides combating the King Jew)...is he a solid coach with a lot of energy and a good reputation? Wouldn't surprise me if he turns out to be one, but he doesn't have anything that suggests that he is(at the collegiate level) |
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Post by southlick on Apr 6, 2015 3:46:32 GMT
Here are just a few of Pearl's question marks. Some are interchangeable with any coach who comes to Alabama. 1) Can he replicate the success he's had in the past at Auburn, a place with virtually no basketball history outside of Charles Barkley? 2) If he is able to achieve success at Auburn, will he be lured away by a blueblood? 3) Will Pearl be able to maintain recruiting success as one of just two active coaches who were previously show-caused? The NCAA will almost certainly be watching him a little more closely than others. 4) Can Pearl and his family be happy living in a place like Auburn, Alabama? That said, Pearl is a good coach. There's really no debating that, but how much he can accomplish at a place like Auburn has yet to be seen. 1) Cliff Ellis was able to win here and may have had a longer career had his assistants not got us in trouble with the NCAA. 2) Know some people close to the Pearl's that say they really like it here. Bruce seems genuinely grateful that we gave him a second chance. If a top program came calling though its hard to say. The big money people told our AD to pay Barbee his money and go get Bruce though so I think we will keep him well paid to stay. 3) Our recruiting so far has been good and we have some good ties to some instate stud players in the next few classes. Shit he recruited pretty good last year considering he wasn't able to go see any prospects. 4) Answered this in #2 but yes they like it here. His son who is an assistant just built a house here and said they plan to stay. Bruce's wife apparently doesn't like the spotlight and likes that she can be left alone in a small town like AU. If Bruce can't win here we need to shut down the basketball program. We have great facilities and the fan support has been overwhelming this year. I have attended damn near every home game since Charles was here and cannot remember the fan base being this supportive. One disclaimer though our AD is a massive fucking retard that is capable of fucking up anything he touches. Would probably leave for Memphis when it opens up |
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Post by duke on Apr 6, 2015 3:59:52 GMT
1) Cliff Ellis was able to win here and may have had a longer career had his assistants not got us in trouble with the NCAA. 2) Know some people close to the Pearl's that say they really like it here. Bruce seems genuinely grateful that we gave him a second chance. If a top program came calling though its hard to say. The big money people told our AD to pay Barbee his money and go get Bruce though so I think we will keep him well paid to stay. 3) Our recruiting so far has been good and we have some good ties to some instate stud players in the next few classes. Shit he recruited pretty good last year considering he wasn't able to go see any prospects. 4) Answered this in #2 but yes they like it here. His son who is an assistant just built a house here and said they plan to stay. Bruce's wife apparently doesn't like the spotlight and likes that she can be left alone in a small town like AU. If Bruce can't win here we need to shut down the basketball program. We have great facilities and the fan support has been overwhelming this year. I have attended damn near every home game since Charles was here and cannot remember the fan base being this supportive. One disclaimer though our AD is a massive fucking retard that is capable of fucking up anything he touches. Would probably leave for Memphis when it opens up Why would he go to Memphis? I've seen this before, but they wouldn't outbid us and I don't see what Memphis can offer that's better than being a top ~5 SEC program. |
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Post by southlick on Apr 6, 2015 4:03:01 GMT
Would probably leave for Memphis when it opens up Why would he go to Memphis? I've seen this before, but they wouldn't outbid us and I don't see what Memphis can offer that's better than being a top ~5 SEC program. A program worth a shit? |
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Post by duke on Apr 6, 2015 4:16:29 GMT
Why would he go to Memphis? I've seen this before, but they wouldn't outbid us and I don't see what Memphis can offer that's better than being a top ~5 SEC program. A program worth a shit? True...but he landed 3 top 150 recruits to Auburn within 5 minutes of his show cause expiring and he landed a top 10 class...how much is Memphis' prestige worth when he can land top classes at Auburn? |
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Post by jhooked on Apr 6, 2015 4:21:34 GMT
For the sake of comparison, Johnson's name was briefly mentioned as a possibility at Texas before Smart was hired. I would have gone on a shooting spree. Then you're an idiot *your |
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Post by southlick on Apr 6, 2015 4:23:11 GMT
True...but he landed 3 top 150 recruits to Auburn within 5 minutes of his show cause expiring and he landed a top 10 class...how much is Memphis' prestige worth when he can land top classes at Auburn? Let's see what happens next year. That's all we have to go by.... Wait and see and such. |
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Post by mcguirk on Apr 6, 2015 4:28:06 GMT
Its not that i didnt expect bama fans to try to spin this into a good hire...i would expect it from any fanbase who just hired a new coach. Truth is, the guy has never coached college ball and has never recruited before. Sure, he once coached in the NBA...not really going to mean shit on the recruiting trail at a program like alabama. Really dont even see this as an upgrade from anthony grant other than just being new blood
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Post by duke on Apr 6, 2015 4:34:32 GMT
True...but he landed 3 top 150 recruits to Auburn within 5 minutes of his show cause expiring and he landed a top 10 class...how much is Memphis' prestige worth when he can land top classes at Auburn? Let's see what happens next year. That's all we have to go by.... Wait and see and such. We probably won't be very good next year either...but anyone with a hint of self awareness knows that we're going to be sick when we get some size |
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Post by clownbaby on Apr 6, 2015 4:38:35 GMT
True...but he landed 3 top 150 recruits to Auburn within 5 minutes of his show cause expiring and he landed a top 10 class...how much is Memphis' prestige worth when he can land top classes at Auburn? All this says is that Bruce Pearl was at an ATM when his show cause expired. |
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Post by southlick on Apr 6, 2015 4:40:53 GMT
Let's see what happens next year. That's all we have to go by.... Wait and see and such. We probably won't be very good next year either...but anyone with a hint of self awareness knows that we're going to be sick when we get some size Not sure how a team with 8 total NCAA apps will all of a sudden be good |
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Post by southlick on Apr 6, 2015 4:41:41 GMT
We probably won't be very good next year either...but anyone with a hint of self awareness knows that we're going to be sick when we get some size Not sure how a team with 8 total NCAA apps will all of a sudden be good and such |
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Post by clownbaby on Apr 6, 2015 4:45:05 GMT
We probably won't be very good next year either...but anyone with a hint of self awareness knows that we're going to be sick when we get some size Not sure how a team with 8 total NCAA apps will all of a sudden be good Bro, top 5 SEC program |
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Post by duke on Apr 6, 2015 4:48:41 GMT
We probably won't be very good next year either...but anyone with a hint of self awareness knows that we're going to be sick when we get some size Not sure how a team with 8 total NCAA apps will all of a sudden be good Our lack of history/success is meaningless if Pearl puts together a bunch of top classes |
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Post by duke on Apr 6, 2015 4:50:41 GMT
I see that y'all are still upset about not hiring Bruce Pearl
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Post by borkycucek on Apr 6, 2015 4:51:07 GMT
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Post by duke on Apr 6, 2015 4:55:01 GMT
Worse comes to worst Avery can always be Bruce's jamboy
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Post by borkycucek on Apr 6, 2015 4:56:37 GMT
Just curious, is there been a coach currently or recently in CBB that has a similar coaching resume to Avery Johnson who only has NBA coaching experience to drop down to CBB?
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Post by barves2125 on Apr 6, 2015 4:59:48 GMT
Its not that i didnt expect bama fans to try to spin this into a good hire...i would expect it from any fanbase who just hired a new coach. Truth is, the guy has never coached college ball and has never recruited before. Sure, he once coached in the NBA...not really going to mean shit on the recruiting trail at a program like alabama. Really dont even see this as an upgrade from anthony grant other than just being new blood You know, it's funny you should say this because aside from 1-2 people, the hire has been pretty widely celebrated in the media. But, no, no, you're right. It's Alabama fans spinning it. Carry on, you well informed non-biased observer, carry on. |
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Post by duke on Apr 6, 2015 5:08:12 GMT
Its not that i didnt expect bama fans to try to spin this into a good hire...i would expect it from any fanbase who just hired a new coach. Truth is, the guy has never coached college ball and has never recruited before. Sure, he once coached in the NBA...not really going to mean shit on the recruiting trail at a program like alabama. Really dont even see this as an upgrade from anthony grant other than just being new blood You know, it's funny you should say this because aside from 1-2 people, the hire has been pretty widely celebrated in the media. But, no, no, you're right. It's Alabama fans spinning it. Carry on, you well informed non-biased observer, carry on. What's with this fixation on the media? |
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Post by barves2125 on Apr 6, 2015 5:26:11 GMT
You know, it's funny you should say this because aside from 1-2 people, the hire has been pretty widely celebrated in the media. But, no, no, you're right. It's Alabama fans spinning it. Carry on, you well informed non-biased observer, carry on. What's with this fixation on the media? It's the closest thing we have to an objective gauge of the quality of the hire at this point. I only pointed it out in that message because, again, an Auburn fan is trying to frame it like everyone is laughing at Alabama when really most people think it's a solid hire. Again, no one knows for sure until things get going but some people (like the idiot I was quoting) are so delusional that they can't look at things remotely objectively and in their eyes it's always going to be "OMG YOU BAMMERS ARE ALWAYS SPINNING STUFF!" Obviously I'm biased but in my experience Auburn fans (on TMB, especially, and ones I know elsewhere, too) tend to have a knack for only listening to the opinions of other Auburn fans which are almost always the same opinions. A lot of circular thought among the fan base without many outside opinions weighed. |
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Post by killerwvu on Apr 6, 2015 11:32:54 GMT
Just curious, is there been a coach currently or recently in CBB that has a similar coaching resume to Avery Johnson who only has NBA coaching experience to drop down to CBB? isiah thomas |
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