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Post by duck70 on Apr 6, 2015 17:29:42 GMT
I fear TMB is not coming back. It's been a fun run guys. Sources?
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Post by nug on Apr 6, 2015 17:38:25 GMT
Please educate us sheeple He doesnt believe in plate tectonics and he makes money through pseudoscience So that's enough for you to discredit everything he's done? Not saying take the guy's word as gospel, but he raises some very interesting points. I've read two of his books, and while they're 'out there,' much of his reasoning/conclusions are well researched and thought out. Like that podcast, it raised a bunch of interesting thoughts about the use of psychedelics throughout time, and his general thought that human civilization is much, much older than we're taught (which is shared by many people). But I'm sure the blog you read in which he was quoted as saying he doesn't believe in plate tectonics is enough.
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Post by highcotton on Apr 6, 2015 17:57:45 GMT
I fear TMB is not coming back. It's been a fun run guys. Sources? Just a feeling and not seeing any progress or legit update in over a week.
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Post by artoo on Apr 6, 2015 18:00:23 GMT
I'm not listening to anyone that doesn't believe in things such as Plate Tectonics. I am going to immediately discard their opinions as that of a moron.
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Post by tc on Apr 6, 2015 18:04:17 GMT
Using this board is like when youve been hooked on sweet glorious heroin and they give you the shitty substitute drugs to help you try and kick. Yes it's bonding to my internet junkie brain receptors but without the usual feelings of euphoric pleasure
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Post by Freak on Apr 6, 2015 18:06:07 GMT
methadone
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Post by artoo on Apr 6, 2015 18:07:35 GMT
Using this board is like when youve been hooked on sweet glorious heroin and they give you the shitty substitute drugs to help you try and kick. Yes it's bonding to my internet junkie brain receptors but without the usual feelings of euphoric pleasure Yeah, saw someone call it The Methadone Board before. That's what it is.
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Post by Tiffin on Apr 6, 2015 18:25:00 GMT
I'm not listening to anyone that doesn't believe in things such as Plate Tectonics. I am going to immediately discard their opinions as that of a moron. That's like saying you wouldn't take a leadership seminar from Hitler just because he had some far out opinions on Jews.
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Post by duke on Apr 6, 2015 18:56:23 GMT
He doesnt believe in plate tectonics and he makes money through pseudoscience So that's enough for you to discredit everything he's done? Not saying take the guy's word as gospel, but he raises some very interesting points. I've read two of his books, and while they're 'out there,' much of his reasoning/conclusions are well researched and thought out. Like that podcast, it raised a bunch of interesting thoughts about the use of psychedelics throughout time, and his general thought that human civilization is much, much older than we're taught (which is shared by many people). But I'm sure the blog you read in which he was quoted as saying he doesn't believe in plate tectonics is enough. Lmbo yes that's enough to discredit everything he's ever done...he certainly isn't stupid...he's made a boatload of money scamming people
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Post by nug on Apr 6, 2015 19:09:32 GMT
Seems like a poor opinion, to me. If you're a devout atheist, do you automatically discredit everything a renowned scientist has ever done because he's Christian? Or vice-versa? That's the exact argument you're making here.
And if "scamming people" means getting people to buy his books, well I think a majority of non-fiction writers are "scamming" people.
It's OK to step out of your bubble sometimes, whenever you do get a break from perusing Bama threads.
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Post by duke on Apr 6, 2015 19:39:12 GMT
Seems like a poor opinion, to me. If you're a devout atheist, do you automatically discredit everything a renowned scientist has ever done because he's Christian? Or vice-versa? That's the exact argument you're making here. And if "scamming people" means getting people to buy his books, well I think a majority of non-fiction writers are "scamming" people. It's OK to step out of your bubble sometimes, whenever you do get a break from perusing Bama threads. If a renowned scientist was trying to use their belief in God as the backbone of their work then they would be immediately discredited. There really isn't any debate about the guy being a known fraud. He's a terrible person that preys on people under the guise of science...just look at this bullshit quote...it reeks of Scientology or other bullshit..."I am the one with wonder in my heart; the scholars just want to make everything boring."
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Post by stinky on Apr 6, 2015 19:40:57 GMT
I'm having a serious case of deja vu wrt the discussion about this guy. I swear I've never heard of him before, but these last few posts I've seen in my sleep.
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Post by duke on Apr 6, 2015 19:50:04 GMT
I'm having a serious case of deja vu wrt the discussion about this guy. I swear I've never heard of him before, but these last few posts I've seen in my sleep. He's basically a more intelligent and profitable version of Shu
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Post by nug on Apr 6, 2015 19:52:00 GMT
Seems like a poor opinion, to me. If you're a devout atheist, do you automatically discredit everything a renowned scientist has ever done because he's Christian? Or vice-versa? That's the exact argument you're making here. And if "scamming people" means getting people to buy his books, well I think a majority of non-fiction writers are "scamming" people. It's OK to step out of your bubble sometimes, whenever you do get a break from perusing Bama threads. If a renowned scientist was trying to use their belief in God as the backbone of their work then they would be immediately discredited. There really isn't any debate about the guy being a known fraud. He's a terrible person that preys on people under the guise of science...just look at this bullshit quote...it reeks of Scientology or other bullshit..."I am the one with wonder in my heart; the scholars just want to make everything boring." Again, where is this "scamming" people coming from? The guy sells books that offer an alternate theory/view of history. He isn't recruiting people for some ponzi scheme, or soliciting funds like Scientologists, he's selling a damn book. Your line of reasoning could be applied to any view you don't agree with that is a "fraud" for "scamming people." Sorry, but your one quote completely out of context isn't going to sell me. The dude's a huge hippie, and very into hallucinogenics, so a quote like that isn't very surprising at all. The podcast with Rogan---who is batshit crazy about plenty of things in his own right, but that doesn't mean I tune-out every word he says, like you would apparently---is very interesting, and he quotes several other scientists who supports his views, and also offers reasons on why he disagrees with such scholars, rather than empty conclusory statements like you're doing here. Now you're making me come off as some Graham Hancock fanboy, which I very much am not. I posted a clip I thought was interesting, you accused the guy of orchestrating Bernie Madoff-like fraud for scamming people, but haven't really offered any evidence of such other than "it's a known thing."
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Post by pesci on Apr 6, 2015 20:03:27 GMT
He doesnt believe in plate tectonics and he makes money through pseudoscience So that's enough for you to discredit everything he's done? Not saying take the guy's word as gospel, but he raises some very interesting points. I've read two of his books, and while they're 'out there,' much of his reasoning/conclusions are well researched and thought out. Like that podcast, it raised a bunch of interesting thoughts about the use of psychedelics throughout time, and his general thought that human civilization is much, much older than we're taught (which is shared by many people). But I'm sure the blog you read in which he was quoted as saying he doesn't believe in plate tectonics is enough. like how old are we talking?
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Post by duke on Apr 6, 2015 20:08:15 GMT
So that's enough for you to discredit everything he's done? Not saying take the guy's word as gospel, but he raises some very interesting points. I've read two of his books, and while they're 'out there,' much of his reasoning/conclusions are well researched and thought out. Like that podcast, it raised a bunch of interesting thoughts about the use of psychedelics throughout time, and his general thought that human civilization is much, much older than we're taught (which is shared by many people). But I'm sure the blog you read in which he was quoted as saying he doesn't believe in plate tectonics is enough. like how old are we talking? He believes there was an advanced mother civilization on Antarctica that was demolished when antarctica flew down to the South Pole, but it's technologies lived on through surviving civilizations
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Post by cutig on Apr 6, 2015 20:11:32 GMT
Dude sounds pretty out there
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Post by skepticalhippo on Apr 6, 2015 20:12:36 GMT
Really liking the blueboard
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Post by jaxteller007 on Apr 6, 2015 20:15:27 GMT
Florida is full of stupid people. On talk radio the other morning they were talking about a couple that got arrested for selling fake golden tickets to heaven. They were selling pieces of wood, spray painted gold with the words "1 ticket to heaven" written in marker, as real gold tickets to heaven. I get that some people would fall for that, but when they got arrested they had sold enough of them at $99 each that they had over $10K in cash on them.
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Post by nug on Apr 6, 2015 20:15:31 GMT
So that's enough for you to discredit everything he's done? Not saying take the guy's word as gospel, but he raises some very interesting points. I've read two of his books, and while they're 'out there,' much of his reasoning/conclusions are well researched and thought out. Like that podcast, it raised a bunch of interesting thoughts about the use of psychedelics throughout time, and his general thought that human civilization is much, much older than we're taught (which is shared by many people). But I'm sure the blog you read in which he was quoted as saying he doesn't believe in plate tectonics is enough. like how old are we talking? I want to say in the clip I posted, he opined that we're off by about 10,000 years, some of his colleagues go back as far as 30,000, but he said he wasn't willing to go that far with the evidence he had seen.
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Post by clemsontyger04 on Apr 6, 2015 20:19:50 GMT
I have just discovered Talenti Gelato
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Post by barves2125 on Apr 6, 2015 20:23:18 GMT
If a renowned scientist was trying to use their belief in God as the backbone of their work then they would be immediately discredited. There really isn't any debate about the guy being a known fraud. He's a terrible person that preys on people under the guise of science...just look at this bullshit quote...it reeks of Scientology or other bullshit..."I am the one with wonder in my heart; the scholars just want to make everything boring." Again, where is this "scamming" people coming from? The guy sells books that offer an alternate theory/view of history. He isn't recruiting people for some ponzi scheme, or soliciting funds like Scientologists, he's selling a damn book. Your line of reasoning could be applied to any view you don't agree with that is a "fraud" for "scamming people." Sorry, but your one quote completely out of context isn't going to sell me. The dude's a huge hippie, and very into hallucinogenics, so a quote like that isn't very surprising at all. The podcast with Rogan---who is batshit crazy about plenty of things in his own right, but that doesn't mean I tune-out every word he says, like you would apparently---is very interesting, and he quotes several other scientists who supports his views, and also offers reasons on why he disagrees with such scholars, rather than empty conclusory statements like you're doing here. Now you're making me come off as some Graham Hancock fanboy, which I very much am not. I posted a clip I thought was interesting, you accused the guy of orchestrating Bernie Madoff-like fraud for scamming people, but haven't really offered any evidence of such other than "it's a known thing." Don't bother. He won't address any of your points and will likely stick to the standard aloof disregard of them. You're talking to a closed minded individual that thinks he has got it all figured out and most everyone else is an idiot even though he has little to no evidence to back his positions up. A pretty standard personality type in rural Alabama. If you keep attempting to discuss possibliities outside his realm of understanding, name-calling will surely follow. And I don't know anything about the author in question. Just describing the debate patterns of a one, Duke Buster.
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Post by borkycucek on Apr 6, 2015 20:25:20 GMT
Had this for lunch, spicy pork cemita, so good.
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Post by Truman on Apr 6, 2015 20:30:48 GMT
Hi old friends
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Post by Pelinis on Apr 6, 2015 20:32:07 GMT
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Post by duke on Apr 6, 2015 20:35:30 GMT
If a renowned scientist was trying to use their belief in God as the backbone of their work then they would be immediately discredited. There really isn't any debate about the guy being a known fraud. He's a terrible person that preys on people under the guise of science...just look at this bullshit quote...it reeks of Scientology or other bullshit..."I am the one with wonder in my heart; the scholars just want to make everything boring." Again, where is this "scamming" people coming from? The guy sells books that offer an alternate theory/view of history. He isn't recruiting people for some ponzi scheme, or soliciting funds like Scientologists, he's selling a damn book. Your line of reasoning could be applied to any view you don't agree with that is a "fraud" for "scamming people." Sorry, but your one quote completely out of context isn't going to sell me. The dude's a huge hippie, and very into hallucinogenics, so a quote like that isn't very surprising at all. The podcast with Rogan---who is batshit crazy about plenty of things in his own right, but that doesn't mean I tune-out every word he says, like you would apparently---is very interesting, and he quotes several other scientists who supports his views, and also offers reasons on why he disagrees with such scholars, rather than empty conclusory statements like you're doing here. Now you're making me come off as some Graham Hancock fanboy, which I very much am not. I posted a clip I thought was interesting, you accused the guy of orchestrating Bernie Madoff-like fraud for scamming people, but haven't really offered any evidence of such other than "it's a known thing." Obviously he isn't stealing peoples' pensions but he's a fraud nonetheless. He's been busted fabricating evidence to support his outrageous theories which calls into question whether he believes any of his nonsense in the first place. He basically mocks academia because they actually have to adhere to the scientific process. And now he's hocking random theories about consciousness. The guy simply shouldn't be legitimized in the slightest bit because he sells bullshit to get rich.
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Post by artoo on Apr 6, 2015 20:40:02 GMT
People that take and share pictures of their food are the worst. Just the worst.
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Post by racer on Apr 6, 2015 20:43:13 GMT
People that take and share pictures of their food are the worst. Just the worst. #chickenandwaffles #hashhouse
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Post by nug on Apr 6, 2015 20:43:56 GMT
Again, where is this "scamming" people coming from? The guy sells books that offer an alternate theory/view of history. He isn't recruiting people for some ponzi scheme, or soliciting funds like Scientologists, he's selling a damn book. Your line of reasoning could be applied to any view you don't agree with that is a "fraud" for "scamming people." Sorry, but your one quote completely out of context isn't going to sell me. The dude's a huge hippie, and very into hallucinogenics, so a quote like that isn't very surprising at all. The podcast with Rogan---who is batshit crazy about plenty of things in his own right, but that doesn't mean I tune-out every word he says, like you would apparently---is very interesting, and he quotes several other scientists who supports his views, and also offers reasons on why he disagrees with such scholars, rather than empty conclusory statements like you're doing here. Now you're making me come off as some Graham Hancock fanboy, which I very much am not. I posted a clip I thought was interesting, you accused the guy of orchestrating Bernie Madoff-like fraud for scamming people, but haven't really offered any evidence of such other than "it's a known thing." Obviously he isn't stealing peoples' pensions but he's a fraud nonetheless. He's been busted fabricating evidence to support his outrageous theories which calls into question whether he believes any of his nonsense in the first place. He basically mocks academia because they actually have to adhere to the scientific process. And now he's hocking random theories about consciousness. The guy simply shouldn't be legitimized in the slightest bit because he sells bullshit to get rich. This is rich coming from somebody pumping up Bruce Pearl so fucking much. Sorry, but your vague uses of "fraud" and "bullshit he sells" isn't really convincing me. "Hocking random theories of consciousness?" You mean expressing his opinion about such? Is there some concrete view of consciousness we're to accept? From what I understand it's one of the things we lack an understanding of the most. He mocks academia for their rigidity and their unwillingness to do anything outside of the scientific method. I may not agree with that wholeheartedly (see what I did there? I disagree with a point he makes without discrediting every view he espouses), but I don't think it's a far-fetched idea to accuse those in the academic realm of valuing form over substance, or being to 'rigid' in their belief systems. Nobody's forcing people to go out and buy his books. I'd think if he was as much of a fraud as you seem to think he is he wouldn't be rich and/or people wouldn't be buying his books.
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Post by pesci on Apr 6, 2015 20:46:01 GMT
People that take and share pictures of their food are the worst. Just the worst. #chickenandwaffles #hashhouse the chicken/waffles/bacon all look good but what in the fuck is that garnish?
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